Things We Need to Know About “Lucifer”

Hello all,

My wise friend Pearl sent this “gem” to me today. So good I just had to pass it on!

Enjoy!

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Hi Patti….

As I was studying this subject (on the correct definition of “Lucifer”), I was thinking of how many “waves” this will cause by those who read it, but STILL refuse to believe the truth.

For the benefit of those who still are unaware of the fact that Christianity is NOT a “religion”, I’ll just say this: Christianity is contained within a “body” (Christ’s body), and we learn doctrine from our own Book (the Bible), and also from other believers who study and know more than others. Christians don’t “go to church” because they ARE the “Church”. Anything else that has added a title to it, such as “Methodist”, or “Pentecostal”, etc. and stuck it on the front of any building..is called a “RELIGION”. God hates “religion”, and He calls it the “doctrine of the Nicolaitans” that is, one teacher over the whole “flock”. See Revelation 2:6. God is supposed to be our Head, but “religion” says that the Pastor is our head. This is the source of most of the false doctrines which are passed on to the “flock”.

But superficial Christians have a way of DOING the things they are told NOT to do, such as “going to Church” (tithing is NOT a NT option, either). And they DON’T DO what God tells them to DO, such as “study the Bible” themselves. See II Tim. 2:15. Therefore, they end up believing every false doctrine coming from behind the pulpit of the “churches” which they feel compelled to attend (which is another false doctrine in itself).

And the crashing down of this “Lucifer” false doctrine should sent many of them into a “dither” while running to their “Pastors” to see if it’s true. And I laugh, because their Pastors will confirm the lie because it’s highly unlikely that they will ever admit to teaching false doctrine, themselves.

So, let’s begin this study with a prayer that I found within one of the links I have provided. And also, one must have at least “two witnesses” to establish a truth. For that reason, I have provided FOUR of them, just to be on the safe side.

Let us pray: Father of all light (enlightenment), Master of the universe, Ancient of days, Creator of all that is and ever will be, we ask You to make Yourself real to us right now in the nature of Your Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, the Truth-Giving Spirit, whose job is to bring us into all truth.

John 16:13 “But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. (NAS)

Holy Spirit, we ask You to cause the eyes of our understanding to be quickened, and the scales of tradition be removed from our eyes that we could better see and understand the nature and character of our Father and His creation.

First link from a wonderful, and prolific spiritual teacher, Elwin R. Roach:

http://www.godfire.net/Lucifer.html

Piece of above link:

SON OF THE MORNING gives additional evidence of who this individual might be. In the Hebrew SON (BEN) carries the thought of one who is B-O-R-N and is A BUILDER OF A FAMILY NAME. Satan, in his greatest moment, was never born and certainly not given an honorable name from which to build. However, God did bring Adam forth for such a purpose, and for four thousand years he did build the name (nature) that was given to him, even though he had corrupted it. Jesus, then picked up the building tools of the Spirit and finished the work in the glorious realm the first Adam could never do. Yes, indeed, Adam was the SHINING SON OF THE MORNING who brought forth the first ray of light to the world. The Lord of Glory then came to finish the work and declared, “I AM THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.” (Rev. 22:16).

SATAN’S ORIGIN and character of DARKNESS was spoken of by Jesus and should be enough to settle the querying minds of all, that he was never a shining angel of light. He made it clear that he was a murderer from THE BEGINNING and concluded His statement by saying, “…And in the truth HE HAS NOT STOOD.” (Jn. 8:44; Diaglott, Westcott & Hort, and Marshall’s Interlinear Grk/Eng N.T.). If he has NEVER STOOD IN THE LIGHT OF THE TRUTH, and also, if he “…HAS BEEN SINNING FROM THE BEGINNING,” as John recorded (I Jn. 3:8, Diaglott), there is no honest way we can say Satan was ever a glorious, shining, angel of light with the name of Lucifer. If this be true, how then, can Isa. 14:12 be speaking of Satan? It is not likely that it is.

FALLEN ANGELS is a common term used by almost everyone, and a verse in Jude seems to relate to this. We probably won’t cover every verse of scripture that might answer all of our questions concerning this subject, but this is one into which we should look. “And the angels which KEPT not their first estate, but LEFT their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains of darkness unto the judgment of the great day.” (Jude 6). The Concordant Literal translates these two verbs (kept & left) as KEEP and LEAVE, for they are in the aorist active form. They are not in the indicative past tense. This would, therefore, indicate those being held in darkness with unbreakable chains are the ones who have and are PRESENTLY not remaining in the place God had placed them in. These angels, rather MESSENGERS (Grk), I believe to be none other than M-E-N today who fall into and submit to the same temptations Sodom and Gomorrah had lusted after. Verse 7 speaks of this, and think about it as you read it — angels are not tempted with fleshy lusts, however, men are. Therefore, we believe Jude is referring to men who are the messengers rather than spirit beings, and because of their perverted desires they are held in darkness (strong delusion to believe a lie, II Thes. 2:11-12) until the day of judgment.

Second link through Sigler Ministries:

http://www.sigler.org/surbrook/interest.htm

Piece of above link:

There you have it! Feels real good and comfortable, just like we were taught, right? J

Well, I hate to upset the apple cart BUT I am afraid that the bible says quite another thing. Let’s look at the whole picture keeping things in context.

Jesus said:

John 8:44

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

(KJV)

John said:

1 John 3:8

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

(KJV)

Now, we already have a big problem! If both Jesus and John said that Satan was not perfect from the beginning, who are we going to believe, Tradition or the bible? So if these references are not referring to Satan, then who is the bible talking about? Let’s see if we can figure it out?

Third link by Scott and Louise Paris who offer some wonderful insights:

http://greater-emmanuel.org/Call_Of_The_Kingdom/Lucifer_Adam.html

Piece of the link:

Serpent is identified in Rev. 12:9, as Satan. When this curse was spoken onto the Serpent he was lowered to a different position. When the Lord told the Serpent, “dust you shall eat,” He was speaking of mankind, or flesh. God told Adam, “In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground; for out of it you were taken; for dust you are, and to dust you shall return.” Vs. 19. That Adam (mankind) is the dust dimension into which Satan has been lowered and confined to. he does not inhabit inanimate objects, buildings, and haunt houses. That is the imaginations of carnal superstitions, and is unbiblical.

Satan has only one avenue to express his evil nature, and it is in man. “You are of the earth, earthy.”

Myriad’s of people live in the environment of dust, some without ceasing. dusty storms of lust, unforgiveness, bitterness, hate, pride, arguments, contention, rage-and guess who is right there eating it all up, manifesting himself through the flesh. Since man was evicted from Eden, Satan has been resident in unreedemed mankind. “Wherein in times past you walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the sons of disobedience.” Eph.2:2.

What it boils down to is man became one with that spirit, and is alienated from God until he turns to Jesus Christ. Since Adam ate of the “tree of the knowledge of good and evil,” in the midst of the garden, man has born the imprint of Satan, the “mark of the beast.” This mark has been imprinted in mans mind and what he has set his hands to do.

“Jesus began to show his disciples, how that he must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from you, lord: this shall not be to you. But he turned, and said to Peter, get you behind me, Satan; you are an offense to me: for you know not the things that are of God, but those that are of men.”

Matt.16;21-23.

Jesus didn’t call Peter “Satan” because he was a wicked man, but because Peter was thinking like men think. Then Jesus went on, saying, “If any man will come after me, let him deny himself…” Vs. 24. All not denying themselves are not getting delivered, for human nature of flesh is espoused to the devil, and he thinks in the dimension of man. That is thinking like the devil.

Last link from New Life Ministries. I included this one especially because it contains the full Isaiah and Ezekiel chapters which are involved in this whole study. This is especially for those who have never read the KJV, or for those who have no access to a Bible while studying this. It is a quick reference:

http://www.newlifechurchhome.com/TheLuciferError.html

Piece of link article:

If not Satan, then just who was Lucifer, the light bearer? Before Jesus there was only one man that could even come close to the description given by the prophets: that man
was Adam! Read again the above scriptures with an open mind and you will see Adam. Before the fall he was full of wisdom and beauty; he was in the Garden of Eden; he walked on the holy mountain of God. Both prophets were speaking of Adam before and
after the fall.

For there shall be a season when the sound teaching they will not suffer, but according
to their own desires to themselves they shall heap up teachers–itching in the hearing,
and indeed, from the truth the hearing they shall turn away, and to the fables they shall
be turned aside. (2 Titus 4:3,4)

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I just have to add, for the men “out there” who still maintain that “women should be silent in the churches” (another false doctrine), that two of these links were contributed partially from the wisdom of women within the “body of Christ” who “shine” much light in the darkness of this world.

In God’s wise words, there are NO “male” or “female” genders in His “Body”, as we are all “ONE” in the “Body of Christ”! [Notice that the words used by God relate to gender. The “body of Christ” is race-less and “class-less” as well as “gender-less”. Everyone has as much authority as everyone else.] See Gal.3:28.

In God’s perfect love,

Pearl

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Thank you Pearl! What a great teaching!

I know I am grateful for the Word and Spirit of God that pours forth from any source…man, woman, or child…and I am so grateful to know someone so dedicated to dividing Truth from religion.

Shine on in His Light!

Patti C.

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