Comments about “KILLING US OFF WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT”

Dear readers,

I posted these comments to the original article I wrote today. But, I want to also post these comments separately to show what kind of misunderstandings are taking place on this so called Christian forum.
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Hello all,

I write for a web site called Rapture Prophecy Bible Forum, which used to be a great place to share research information and grow in the Spiritual understanding of the Word of God. Recently, the moderator has banned most of the writers that contributed to doing this, and kept only those that support his views on Bible interpretation. He does not want to consider the Spiritual truths of the Words of God unless they support his understanding.

He actually sees everything as literal, and thinks we should understand the literal over the spiritual! He is feeding us milk when we long for meat. I am very concerned about this and have stayed on that site just so I could be at least one voice speaking up for the Word and the Spirit! I feel my days are numbered there, as I am openly challenging him on his lack of spiritual understanding, and someone like him will not tolerate this much longer.

With that in mind, I am adding this volley of comments between us about this post, where I say that the only prophecy not yet fulfilled is the Second Coming. I added that comment because I knew he would react and try and convince me otherwise. It is sad, how someone like him, whom is responsible for putting forth the Truth, is doing everything he can to conceal it.

Here are his comments and my responses:

Patti C.

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Steven
Aug 3, 2014 – 1:11PM
Re: KILLING US OFF WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT!

Hi Patti,

Nicely written article.

There ARE a few MORE prophecies in progress/process yet to be fulfilled before the Second coming of JESUS CHRIST.

We Are NOT appointed to WRATH
Joel 2:31-32

31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
KJV

Thank you for posting.

God Bless

Steven

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Patti C.
Aug 3, 2014 – 2:21PM
Re: KILLING US OFF WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT!

Dear Steven

Thanks for the comments. You are right, there are some prophecies taking place right now that are being fulfilled, such as the sun and moon being darkened, and those who are crying out to God are being saved as if from a fire. Therefore I humbly disagree that these are future events because they are in progress, right now.

I will be supporting this position more throughly in some upcoming posts. You are more than welcome to disagree and show where I am mistaken as I value your input. I appreciate you hearing me out on these issues, as I feel they are very important. It is much later than most think, and as a watch-woman it is my duty to alert His people.

I know this is your duty as well, that is why you allow us to research and present what the Lord is showing us who write here. This is a forum and as such we learn from each other by the process of iron sharpening iron. It is good that you admit that you do not know it all, as that would be a dead end site that would lead nowhere but around the beliefs of the moderator.

Not being like that makes this site unique and living, and valuable to the cause of Christ. I pray it never changes.

Agape!

Patti C.

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Steven
Aug 3, 2014 – 2:41PM
Re: KILLING US OFF WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT!

Hi Patti,

Some people say that the more you read the bible the more literal you can take it.
With that premise what IF….IF

What if this verse can be taken literally?

Revelation 11:3
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
KJV

Could the TWO WITNESSES be the prophet ENOCH and ELIJAH?

IF this is what the text is stating are the TWO WITNESSES already prophesying?

Will WE see them will they be on TV, Internet or some other form of communication?

TIME will tell …..

So that is JUST ONE example that prophecies that still NEED to happen.

I’m sure there are other prophecies that need to take place like WORMWOOD, comets, scorpions ( return of the fallen ones, who without a doubt is the anti Christ? pope? Obama? or ? have the people fled from Israel?, is Damascus a ruinous heap? ) etc still need to happen this is just a quick response just off the very top of my head.

God Bless
Steven
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Patti C.
Aug 3, 2014 – 4:26PM
Re: KILLING US OFF WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT!

Hi Steven,

I totally disagree with that statement of the more we read the Bible the more literal it becomes. It is just the opposite! We are to have eyes to see and ears to hear the SPIRITUAL message of the Word of God. First the carnal and then the Spiritual!

So, no I do not see two physical men on TV evangelizing in Jerusalem. What happened to Jerusalem in 70AD is now happening to the whole world!! The 7 mountains on which the Harlot sits is the 7 continents of this planet!! The Two Witnesses of God is the Word and the Spirit! And, they are both being killed as we speak! The same with the sun and moon being darkened, and I am working on a post right now to show this.

No, I am not in agreement with taking all this literally, no disrespect intended, but I see this as our biggest obstacle to finding Truth.

Yet, as you say…time will tell.

JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!

Patti C.

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I will hang in on this site as long as I can, to be a small voice crying in the wilderness of this worldly forum. It used to be such a dynamic place to share, learn and grow, it is sad to see its demise.
I pray for them to seek the Lord and His spiritual truths, as time will soon be time no more!

Frankly all those who have fallen for seeing everything as carnal is playing right into Satan’s hands and plans.

JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!

Patti C.

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Hello all! What a long strange trip it has been! I am amazed that through 40 years of Bible studies, Bible College, and attending a multitude of churches, of varying denominations, I have come full circle back to the day when I was “born again”. On that day (Sept 24th 1978) I found the Truth when Jesus found me. I knew in an instant that I could live in eternity by living in the moment with Christ. God is love and loves everyone and wants everyone to be set free in Christ. That the spiritual world trumps the material world and by focusing on Christ one can live spiritually every moment, and death to self brings abundant new life. This was massively life changing! I went from being broken to being whole! I could not contain the love and joy within me. I was a different person and all my relationships changed. And shortly after that earthshaking day, I did sell everything I owned and went on the road proclaiming the JOY of the Good News!! Yet, after three years, I settled down and starting going to church, realizing I had not truly studied the Word of God. I had attended church as a child and as a teen I sang in the choir and taught vacation Bible school, so I knew the major highlights of the Gospel, and pretty much believed what preachers were preaching about God’s Word. Still, I did not find the fire of the Spirit in many of the churches I attended. To me, all the different denominations were creating division not unity in the body of Christ, by chopping up the Word to suit the traditions of men. In 1997 I decided to start reading and studying the Bible for myself. I read books about the “rapture” and the Left Behind series of books and started to see how churches were so divided on these issues and nothing they were teaching really rang true in my heart. I attended Bible College in 2004 and got my Masters in Theology and really got into understanding the End Times as taught by the pre-trib and pre-wrath rapture groups and authors. I was completely sold on this interpretation of the Bible, so much so, that I started writing about it on a pre-trib web site called Five Doves. I got really into waiting for the rapture and trying to figure out the timing and all that, and wrote many many articles about how and when this would happen. It was exciting, I felt that I was learning so much. The more I studied on my own the more I started to see that I did not see in His Word the same things that others were seeing and started to write about what I was finding. As soon as I did this, and started to stray away from the herd of pre-tribbers, I was thrown off the web site. As soon as that happened, the Lord started giving me new revelations and I started asking questions and rely on Him to show me in His Word the answers I was looking for. The major turning point was when I started writing for another web site (Rapture Prophecy Bible Forum) and found out who Israel truly is. That is the foundation for all Bible study…once one knows whom Israel is, one can never go back to dispensational beliefs. That opened the flood gates of revelations from the Lord. He made sure that I would have the time to truly focus on what the Holy Spirit was showing me. I fell down some stairs and broke both of my feet and was not able to do anything but study the Bible. And Study I did!! I was consumed with it, day and night and felt on fire for the Truth. Things that I had believed in for so long just fell away, and everyday I was finding out more and more. Although I started to see that there is no end time rapture, I still believed in a future Second Coming and that we were in the Last Days and how the world was becoming a dark place full of evil. I wrote much about this…even on this blog. Yet, at the same time finding out about the Kingdom of God and how it has already come, and how the Jewish feasts have all been fulfilled in Christ. We are not waiting for the last three to be fulfilled as so many preach and teach. The plan of Salvation was FINISHED AT THE CROSS, and all that was left to be fulfilled was the sending of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost…the 7th and last feast not the 4th…and Christ’s Second Coming in Judgment and the resurrection of the saints. That brings me up to recent time, and my most recent revelations from the Lord and I am shocked at what I have found out! I never even conceived that the Bible was a finished work and that there was no longer anything left to be fulfilled. Yet, that is what I have found out and it is AMAZING how I feel totally set free!! The Truth truly does set one free from the searching and the divisions of the traditions of man!! It all makes so much sense and every verse has taken on a new and heartfelt meaning!! 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Nothing else really mattered. It was not until I got caught up in the “traditions of men” that the path got crooked and the way confusing. Yet, it is so wonderful to find out that His Word tells us the Truth, and that Jesus is the Way, the TRUTH, and the life. That being said, I will be posting studies that helped me understand, and hope that anyone out there that is reading this may find what they may be looking for, as they take this journey OF FINDING OUT FOR YOURSELF. God bless all, and may you be in His love and Light today and always!! JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!! Patti C.

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