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This morning as I was reading letters on another site, I saw mention of the Bema Seat Judgment and how it is only for believers. This is another doctrine of the Pre-Tribulationists who have divided Christ’s Second Coming into two events, and therefore must divide the Judgment into two events. This, then becomes another reason to look at the Biblical validity of such doctrine, and find out what is really true. I found that the word “bema” is never mentioned in the Bible, and there is nowhere a separate judgment of believers is implied or mentioned, either. I used to just take this teaching for granted as so many other things that I was taught by Chuck Missler. Now, I know that this is not true.

Below is a very through and biblically supported study, that covers all the reasons it is not true, and supplies explanations of what is. This is important, because it is further proof that there is no Pre-Tribulation Rapture. It is a very lengthy study, but well worth the read. I am dividing it into 2 posts, so it will be easier to read.

Is the “Bema Seat Judgment” Biblical?

-by Tony Warren

One of the more frequently asked questions is of the “Bema Seat Judgment” of Christians. This phrase generally refers to the doctrine that teaches Christians must stand before God and be judged, not for their sins, but in order to determine the nature of the rewards for their works on earth. The proponents of this theology call this “The Bema Seat Judgment” to distinguish it from what they term “The White Throne Judgment.” The latter they believe to be the Judgment that God reserves for judicial verdict against the transgressions of the wicked.

However, the truth is a lot less complicated. The Greek word [bema], which is translated seat, is from a root that means ‘base’ or the foot (and by implication, step). It is therefore used to designate a stepped seating area for Judgment. Thus bema simply refers to the raised seating of a judge or a king. For example, the throne of a King is usually stepped seating. In other words, seating which is raised above the level of the surrounding area. Much the same as our courts today have established for judgments. One must approach the raised Judgment area called the bench. Likewise, the bema seat is simply the raised seating of someone sitting to judge.

The problem of the Bema Seat Judgment is not really one of misunderstanding the Greek, it is an exegetical problem where some theologians are reading their own presuppositions “into” the text. They have formulated a doctrine that teaches that there is a adjudication that is specifically to judge the value of the Christian’s service to the Lord. And so they attempt to shape the word “bema” to conform to their predetermined doctrine. While their beliefs certainly cannot be proven Biblically, many of these theologians (using secular testimony) have gone to great lengths to justify the doctrine, even though it contradicts the Bible text itself. Some claim that this particular seat was only used to reward and was never used to punish. However, these secular ideas are not only contrary to all other doctrines of scripture concerning God’s rewarding us for our work, but they are contradictory to the way the Greek word [bema] itself is used in the scriptures. God’s word does not lend itself in support of such an obviously Biblically indefensible position. In fact, God clearly illustrates just the opposite. For example, Pilate sat on the Judgment seat [bema] when Jesus was being accused of wrong doing. Clearly this makes these theories about its purpose being for rewards, null and void.

Matthew 27:19 •”When he was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.”
John 19:13 •”When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.”

The Greek word translated seat is [bema]. Clearly, this isn’t a seat for rewarding anyone. And the word Gabbatha means the knoll, a vernacular term for the Roman tribunal. The whole idea makes no sense. Why would his wife be warning him not to have anything to do with this “just” man, if all Pilate was there for was to hand out rewards? In both Biblical accounts of this episode, the Greek word translated seat, is the same word [bema]. And we should note very clearly that far from being a seat to hand out rewards, it is a seat of Judgment in tribunal for crimes (perceived or otherwise). Pilate sits upon this Judgment seat and he makes a Judgment to have the the Lord Jesus Christ scourged, and handed over to be crucified. Quite clearly, this was a Judgment seat for judicial law. And this is not only illustrated by the context, but also by the content. In both passages, Pilate sits on this bema and delivers a judicial verdict against Christ (beating and handing Him over to be crucified) which has absolutely nothing to do with rewards. Likewise, in the book of Acts we find the same scenario present with this Judgment seat.

Acts 18:12-13 •”And when Gallio was the deputy of Achaia, the Jews made insurrection with one accord against Paul, and brought him to the judgment seat,

•Saying, This fellow persuadeth men to worship God contrary to the law.”

Acts 18:17 •”Then all the Greeks took Sosthenes, the chief ruler of the synagogue, and beat him before the judgment seat. And Gallio cared for none of those things.”

Clearly we see from the context that this word ‘bema’ is used in the sense of Judgment in a trial, where Paul is accused by the Jews of some crime, which they ultimately could not prove. We can say without fear of rational contradiction that this was a seat where a judgment of the law was to be pronounced against or for the Apostle Paul. It was most certainly not a Judgment seat for rewards, nor an award ceremony. And for any Theologian to make such claims concerning the ‘Bema Judgment’ is pure fabrication. It is a personal or private interpretation that most certainly is not evidenced by the scripture. As stated, the scriptures themselves testify against such an understanding of this type. Explicitly we learn that the bema was not used to hand out rewards, but as a place for Judgment in a tribunal.

Is this doctrine of a “Bema Seat Judgment” invented to be the believer’s motivation to work? Are believers truly motivated by a desire for rewards (above and beyond the reward of inheritance in our salvation in Christ) in the kingdom of heaven? The answer is an emphatical, no! And to have a doctrine that postulates our possible loss of rewards if our works on earth are not up to standards, bridges on the heretical. Rather than have the Christian be motivated to persevere through love, this doctrine actually threatens our future reward at the bema seat based upon our good, or not so good works. So despite all objections to the contrary, this is a doctrine that promotes “Merit” rather than “Grace,” and it makes a total mockery of the passages (divinely inspired of God) that clearly demonstrate that our reward in heaven cannot be by both by Grace of God, and by our own merit.

Romans 11:6 •”And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”

Our labor is gracious only as it is through “the work of Christ.” Because there is no disagreement between God’s Grace and human responsibility. But there can be no agreement between a merit system of rewards based upon our own works, and not the work of Christ in us. Neither should our responsibility be confused with human merit. But that is exactly what many of these theologians have done in formulating the Bema Seat Judgment. Responsibility does not mean that Christians must in any way cooperate in their own perseverance in works. Nor does God motivate us to work through diverse crowns or rewards based on our effort. Those who misinterpret the scriptures that exhort work, does not truly understand why the Christian either wills or works. For a scripture out of context, is a pretext.

Hebrews 10:23 •”Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)”

The exhortation to, “…hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering,” is not a proof of our indispensable cooperation, but the illustration of the necessary evidence of true salvation, which is the compulsory results inevitable when Christ is truly working within us. We are motivated by the Spirit, not by rewards. The fact of the matter is, of ourselves we merit no rewards, for it is Christ’s work in us that merits reward for our labors. Why then a bema seat Judgment when we merit nothing of ourselves? Why such a doctrine when it is only by Grace of God that we merit the reward. For our own works are unprofitable, and merit us no payment (translated, reward). The only reward we get is for the work that Christ did on our behalf.

Luke 17:10 •”So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.”

Do you see any merit of reward in that verse? It is by the sovereignty of God that Christians are good servants and are moved to do the works of Christ. It is by ‘His Work’ within us (not our own) that we both have the will to do, and are wherewithal to do it. What then is this Bema seat a test or Judgment of? God’s own work in us? If that be the case, then we shall all receive a full reward, because Christ’s work is perfect in us. All credit goes to Him, and we thus merit nothing of our own. And this is not speculation, for God is not silent on this matter.

Philippians 2:13 •”For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.”

Hebrews 13:20-21 •”Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,”

•Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.”

Ephesians 2:10 •”For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”

1st Corinthians 3:9 •”For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.”

2nd Corinthians 4:7 •”But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.”

1st Corinthians 15:10 •”But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.”

How then are we standing before the so-called Bema seat being judged for doing good things that we cannot ‘honestly’ take credit for? Because Christ moved us to do that which we in our ‘sinful nature’ would never do? He gave us the will to do good. There is none that seeks after God, there is none that doeth good, no not one (Romans 3:12). We have to be moved of God to do good. And that is how we find that we do accomplish good works after we are saved. But it is ‘only’ because the Spirit of God is now dwelling within us, making our body His habitation, His Holy temple, making us perfect in every good work we do. What reward does a perfect man receive, and wow many rewards shall he lose for imperfection? Obviously, a full reward and none lost. Each good man in Christ, shall receive a good man’s reward.

Ruth 2:12 •”The LORD recompense thy work, and a full reward be given thee of the LORD God of Israel, under whose wings thou art come to trust.”

It is Biblically absurd to argue for additional personal rewards for the good that we do, or loss of them as Judgment for any imperfection (which is sin), while all the while arguing that it is not a Judgment for sin. If we are not perfect in our works, we are in sin. It was for this reason that Christ went to the cross. That we “could” appear before Him blameless, perfect, and without fault in all our works. That we “could” appear before the bema seat and be judged according to the work of Christ.
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Patti C.
Sep 3, 2013 – 2:10PM
Re: Is the “Bema Seat Judgment” Biblical?


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The Bema seat is not to punish believers I agree, but it is not to reward anyone based on his individual righteousness (meritorious works) either, for we are all worthy of a full reward of inheritance because we are all without fault. And if any of our works could be faulted, it is sin. And the wages of sin is death, not the loss of rewards. All our punishment was paid for by Christ at the cross, and our full reward was “secured” for us by that very same ‘work’ of the cross.

Colossians 3:24 •”Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.”

The inheritance is not diverse crowns handed out at the Bema seat, it is in being regenerated or born of God, we have the seed of Christ remain in us that we are Sons of God. And thus heirs of the promise to the Son. Yes, there are scriptures that some theologians use to attempt to undermine this inheritance in Christ’s Reward, but once carefully examined none of them either support these doctrines, nor speak of diverse rewards for believers. One such passage often quoted as proof is Revelation chapter 22:

Revelation 22:12 •”And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.”

Their belief is that if every man is rewarded according to his own work, then believers shall receive different rewards. The problem with this assumption is that this scripture doesn’t say believers. It says every man. In other words, one man will receive reward for Good. And the other shall receive the reward for bad. Two different rewards, but for two different men. You see they totally misunderstand and thus misapply this verse. The wicked are paid (translated rewarded) also. What shall their wages or reward be? God’s wrath.

Let’s look at the word translated reward. It is the Greek word [misthos], and means payment or wages for work. Thus (as it declares) every man shall be rewarded according to his own work. Whether good or bad.

2nd Peter 2:13 •”And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;”

That is the exact same word [misthos] meaning payment or reward for our labors. The wicked receive for his work the reward of ****ation, and the righteous receive for his work, the reward of everlasting life in the inheritance of the Son. That is how Christ gives to every man according to his own work, whether good or bad. Because when every Christian is rewarded according to his work, then every one of them shall receive the exact same reward, seeing how every work of the man of God is without blemish. Every single one. God looks upon us all as blameless, and so how could any of us merit less than another? It is impossible.

2nd Timothy 3:17 •”That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.”
Revelation 14:4-5 •”These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
•And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.”

God declares that they stand without fault before the King, and so how could one be faulted that he not receive the same reward that another receives? It is totally unbiblical to believe that one is better than another to be given rewards at the bema seat. When we are rewarded according to our own works. One (the reprobate) is rewarded according to ‘his own’ evil work, and the other (the believer) is rewarded according to the work of Christ on his behalf. He thus receives a full reward. There is no way to escape the obvious implication that our rewards are earned by our own righteousness or good. And all we can say to that is, “God forbid!”
Another passage that is often quoted by the proponents of meritorious rewards, is Matthew chapter six. The idea is that God is saying that we should all labor to heap up rewards in heaven.

Matthew 6:19-21 •”Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
•But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
•For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”

Some theologians use this verse to teach that not only does this justify individual meritorious rewards at the Bema seat, but it tells us to pursue them. But again, that is a careless reading of the text. First of all, this verse does not in any sense teach that believers will receive varying rewards depending upon their own merit, it does not even mention the bema seat, and it does not tell us to pursue such rewards (payments). Rather, it points out the uselessness of possessing earthly “treasures,” and the glory of laying up spiritual “treasures” that are incorruptible. The incorruptible treasure in view is Christ, a spiritual reward that is in us a tree of Life. Not a meritorious reward or payment because we have evangelized so greatly, or worked so much harder than the next Christian in the mission field. We lay up for ourselves treasure in heaven when we become rich in Christ.

2nd Corinthians 4:6-7 •”For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
•But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.”

If this treasure is judged at the Bema seat, then again, all the credit goes to God, for all the treasure laid up is by the power of God. What merit then is of our own righteousness in our work? there are none. If our treasure be in Christ’s work, our reward is in Christ’s work. Better than anything we ‘of ourselves’ could dream of meriting by our own labor.

The fact is, there really is no “Bema Seat Judgment” for handing out rewards versus a later white throne Judgment to hand out punishments. The Bible is clear that there is one Judgment of Christ, and it takes place at the last day. It is then that man will stand before the Judgment seat of Christ to give account of what he has done on earth, whether good or bad. And of course, all those who were washed clean in the blood of Christ stand before God clean and white with ‘good’ works, being without fault before the throne. While the rest of the dead stand with ‘bad’ works, and found guilty in the works of sins.

With all of this evidence of reward in Christ, one may then ask, “why is there this belief by some Christians in a multiple Judgment?” The answer is twofold.

One: Man in his pride and vanity wants credit for what he thinks he has done of his own (alleged) free will.

Two: Premillennial (and particularly dispensational) theologians, of necessity must create more than one Judgment because they have Christ returning more than once. If Christ returns only once (at the last day), their need for multiple judgments disappear.
The Premillennial eschatology of a thousand year reign of Christ on earth necessitates a double Judgment. For they have some judged for rewards before the thousand years, and some judged after the thousand years. This is problematic if there is a pretribulation rapture and no Bema Seat Judgment.

Some will ask, ‘Why then does God call where He is seated in Revelation chapter 20, the [thronos] or throne, and in other places say the Judgment [bema] or seat.’ The answer is actually very simple. God’s word is replete with symbolism, figures and word images or pictures which vary signifying or illustrating some particular spiritual truth. Some chapters and verses may be illustrating one aspect of God (such as, He being the King who rules upon the throne), while others chapters and verses may be illustrating another aspect of God (such as his position seated as Judge to mete out punishment). There really is no mystery in this. No more than the mystery of how God calls Himself in one chapter the Lamb, and in another chapter the Lion. One signifies His meekness and sacrifice, and the other His power and Strength. It doesn’t mean it’s two different Gods. In one verse Christ is called the Root, and in another the Vine. In one He’s called the Bread, and in another the Water. There is no mystery, nor is it curious that God in one verse calls His chair the Judgment seat, and in another the throne of God. They signify different aspects of God’s magnificent design. Judgment and Kingship.

Surely, there is only one time of Judgment, and that day is spoken of in scripture as “the last day.” It is the day when judgment will take place for all people. There are no multiple Judgment days, although many theologians have gone to great lengths in an effort to prove that there are. One of the most popular scriptures used in support of this teaching is Romans chapter 14. Even though it says nothing about multiple judgments days, nor of this being a judgment of rewards for saints only.

Romans 14:10 •”But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.”

This verse doesn’t in any way defend or prove the theory that there are two judgments. The only way that we can see the doctrine of two separate judgment times in this verse is if we “read it into” these scriptures. Because it was obviously not inspired of God to be written there. Moreover, we have the identical language in 2nd Corinthians, and it is clear from this text that it is a time of Judgment both for the good and the bad alike. Not coincidentally, this is totally harmonious with what we’ve already learned when looking at the actual word “Bema” in scripture, and it’s example uses for judgment for those at a tribunal.

2nd Corinthians 5:9-11 •”Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
•For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
•Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”

The terror of the Lord doesn’t sound to me like a time of rewards for Christians. This Judgment seat [bema] is the same one all mankind must stand before. We know Christians cannot be judged for any bad (as this verse clearly says this Judgment is for). And so this passage must be illustrating one Judgment of those the Lord will find good (those made righteous), and those whom the Lord will find bad (the unsaved in whom is sin), when they All stand before this Judgment seat. Not all believers (as is surmised), but all.
And so knowing all these things, let us go forth with confidence that all our sins (bad works) were made white as snow by Christ at the cross, and so we could never be held accountable for anything less than perfect works when we stand before the Judgment seat of Christ. Let us have the confidence to know that while all ‘our own’ righteous works are as filthy rags before God, the righteous works of Christ in us make us appear before Him perfect. Confidence to know that while our own prayers may be imperfect (as we are finite beings), the burnt offering of the sacrifice of Christ brings them up before the Lord as a sweet incense (Romans 8:26; Revelation 8:3).

Let us not get caught up in seeking our own rewards before a Bema seat, but trust in the reward of Christ, the inheritance that the Son secured for us by His own work. Let us not set our eyes upon gain, reigns, or prideful lust for rewards, but upon the riches which cannot be earned by us. The treasures which are received by faith. Let us trust in the work of Christ, and we can never go wrong. For it is then that we will understand that when we stand before the Bema seat judgment, we will stand a ‘Righteous Man,’ a man perfect in every way before God, having a Saviour who has delivered him a full inheritance, a full reward, by His work.

We pray that the Lord who is Gracious above all, will give us the wisdom to understand His most Holy Word, and discern between the right hand and the left.


I sure learned a great deal from this study, I hope you all did, too. So much coming to light when we really examine what the Bible truly says, and not trust mainstream Christianity to tell us what to believe.


Patti C.


Author: kinz2all

Hello all! What a long strange trip it has been! I am amazed that through 40 years of Bible studies, Bible College, and attending a multitude of churches, of varying denominations, I have come full circle back to the day when I was “born again”. On that day (Sept 24th 1978) I found the Truth when Jesus found me. I knew in an instant that I could live in eternity by living in the moment with Christ. God is love and loves everyone and wants everyone to be set free in Christ. That the spiritual world trumps the material world and by focusing on Christ one can live spiritually every moment, and death to self brings abundant new life. This was massively life changing! I went from being broken to being whole! I could not contain the love and joy within me. I was a different person and all my relationships changed. And shortly after that earthshaking day, I did sell everything I owned and went on the road proclaiming the JOY of the Good News!! Yet, after three years, I settled down and starting going to church, realizing I had not truly studied the Word of God. I had attended church as a child and as a teen I sang in the choir and taught vacation Bible school, so I knew the major highlights of the Gospel, and pretty much believed what preachers were preaching about God’s Word. Still, I did not find the fire of the Spirit in many of the churches I attended. To me, all the different denominations were creating division not unity in the body of Christ, by chopping up the Word to suit the traditions of men. In 1997 I decided to start reading and studying the Bible for myself. I read books about the “rapture” and the Left Behind series of books and started to see how churches were so divided on these issues and nothing they were teaching really rang true in my heart. I attended Bible College in 2004 and got my Masters in Theology and really got into understanding the End Times as taught by the pre-trib and pre-wrath rapture groups and authors. I was completely sold on this interpretation of the Bible, so much so, that I started writing about it on a pre-trib web site called Five Doves. I got really into waiting for the rapture and trying to figure out the timing and all that, and wrote many many articles about how and when this would happen. It was exciting, I felt that I was learning so much. The more I studied on my own the more I started to see that I did not see in His Word the same things that others were seeing and started to write about what I was finding. As soon as I did this, and started to stray away from the herd of pre-tribbers, I was thrown off the web site. As soon as that happened, the Lord started giving me new revelations and I started asking questions and rely on Him to show me in His Word the answers I was looking for. The major turning point was when I started writing for another web site (Rapture Prophecy Bible Forum) and found out who Israel truly is. That is the foundation for all Bible study…once one knows whom Israel is, one can never go back to dispensational beliefs. That opened the flood gates of revelations from the Lord. He made sure that I would have the time to truly focus on what the Holy Spirit was showing me. I fell down some stairs and broke both of my feet and was not able to do anything but study the Bible. And Study I did!! I was consumed with it, day and night and felt on fire for the Truth. Things that I had believed in for so long just fell away, and everyday I was finding out more and more. Although I started to see that there is no end time rapture, I still believed in a future Second Coming and that we were in the Last Days and how the world was becoming a dark place full of evil. I wrote much about this…even on this blog. Yet, at the same time finding out about the Kingdom of God and how it has already come, and how the Jewish feasts have all been fulfilled in Christ. We are not waiting for the last three to be fulfilled as so many preach and teach. The plan of Salvation was FINISHED AT THE CROSS, and all that was left to be fulfilled was the sending of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost…the 7th and last feast not the 4th…and Christ’s Second Coming in Judgment and the resurrection of the saints. That brings me up to recent time, and my most recent revelations from the Lord and I am shocked at what I have found out! I never even conceived that the Bible was a finished work and that there was no longer anything left to be fulfilled. Yet, that is what I have found out and it is AMAZING how I feel totally set free!! The Truth truly does set one free from the searching and the divisions of the traditions of man!! It all makes so much sense and every verse has taken on a new and heartfelt meaning!! It is GOOD NEWS!! Jesus is our King we can live in His Kingdom RIGHT NOW!! He did ALL He said he would do, when He said He would do it, all we need to do is KNOW HIM. The only event left to happen will happen to each of His children when they pass from this world and into eternity. I was so overwhelmed by my discoveries that I did not know how to approach beginning to write about it. Also, it labels me (and I hate labels in reference to divisions in Christ) I find that I have become a full Preterist. I would never ever have thought this is where my studies would lead, but cannot deny it is where the Lord has brought me. I am now ready to start proving it and that is what I will be doing from here on out. Perhaps the most wonderful aspect of all this is that it has brought me full circle. When I was born again and shown the power of Jesus and relying on Him, I knew it was finished in Him…He was the answer to all. Love is the strongest power in the universe and God is love. Nothing else really mattered. It was not until I got caught up in the “traditions of men” that the path got crooked and the way confusing. Yet, it is so wonderful to find out that His Word tells us the Truth, and that Jesus is the Way, the TRUTH, and the life. That being said, I will be posting studies that helped me understand, and hope that anyone out there that is reading this may find what they may be looking for, as they take this journey OF FINDING OUT FOR YOURSELF. God bless all, and may you be in His love and Light today and always!! JESUS IS ALL AND EVERYTHING!!! Patti C.


  1. Hello, again, Patti….

    I apologize if I am entering into territory which might have a “no trespassing” sign. If there is one here, I didn’t see it. But, I had to say something because this article on the “Bema Judgment” is of utmost importance for all Christians to understand.

    Unfortunately, the links you provided did not lead to the actual articles. “Page not found” was what I found in both cases.

    However, what you did post is great information. Those who believe that the “rapture” will transport some believers to a DIFFERENT judgment than others are greatly deceived. One characteristic that I’ve found to be true for most believers who hold this view is one of self-righteousness! They look forward to accepting rewards for perceived services. But, at the same time, they seem to be unaware of, or unwilling to face the painful process of the journey toward these ends.

    Our Bible tells us that we will ALL (every last one of us) be “salted with fire”….Mark 9:49. Rewards will not be given until the END of all judgments…see Rev. 22:12.

    Many Christians, unfortunately, choose to ignore the fact that it is OUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY to take careful heed NOT to build upon false doctrines (wood, hay, and stubble (I Cor.3:15). Because our OWN judgments on these things takes place HERE AND NOW. If we choose to believe false doctrines coming from today’s pulpits….WE, ALONE, will suffer the judgment process of “burning out” those impurities from within us.

    The Bible tells us exactly where ALL JUDGMENTS OCCUR:

    Ecclesiastes 3:16:…”And moreover I saw UNDER THE SUN (here on this present earth) THE PLACE OF JUDGMENT, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there..”

    And these same Christians who are looking for the “Antichrist”, the “False Prophet” and the “Beast” in the fleshy world systems are looking in the WRONG PLACE. Jesus told us where the “kingdom of God” was located….WITHIN US….Luke 17:21. And likewise, the “antichrist”, the “false prophet”, and the “beast” are ALL within the heart and mind of MAN….and are in some “men” (and women) more than others.

    Ecclesiastes 3:18….”I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that THEY THEMSELVES ARE BEASTS.”

    These are the things that are to be “purged” out of us by God’s holy “fire” as we live through this present life “under the sun” of this present world.

    The “false prophet” is WITHIN us; and the “beast” is also WITHIN us. It is the “heart of man” which is “desperately wicked”…Jeremiah 17:9.

    These are the things which must be destroyed (from within us) through this “salting with fire”. But then, L. Ray Smith says it very well:

    The Church of the Living God is build upon CHRIST, not Peter! And so it is upon this SPIRITUAL, unmovable, foundational, bedrock of Jesus Christ that we are to be built into a new spiritual creation.


    Constructing a building is a process that requires time and activity. Since God likens the building of His spiritual temple to the assembling of a physical building, then this process, likewise, requires time and activity. Time and activity is what we call living our lives. Now then, when does judgment begin at the building of this house of God? Answer:

    “For the time IS COME that judgment must begin at the house of God…” (I Peter 4:17).

    And so it clearly has already begun with the Apostles and New Testament Church nearly two thousand years ago. And it is still going on in the Church of God today, in every believer’s life, as he lives his life.

    Therefore, Paul warns:

    “But let every man take heed HOW he builds [his building’] thereupon” (I Cor. 3:10).

    And so judgment is upon the building of God’s house as each individual believer is framed and fitted for the calling that God has for each individual. This judgment began in the days of the Apostles after the resurrection of our Lord. It continued generation after generation down through the age until today when it yet continues. And it will continue still further until the entire harvest of firstfruits is completed. Remember we already learned that if we would judge ourselves now, Paul said we would not be condemned with the world later (I Cor. 11:32).

    It is while we are living and building that our works are being tried and judged BY FIRE according to HOW we are building. What fire? God’s fire. God’s “CONSUMING [spiritual] FIRE” (Heb. 12:29)! God is SPIRIT and likewise His fire is SPIRIT. I have never heard a minister or teacher preach on the good and beneficial side of God’s FIRE. Fire is usually portrayed as bringing about pain, evil, and destruction. Since God is GOOD (Luke 18:19), and God is SPIRIT (John 4:24), and God is INVISIBLE (Col. 1:15), why does the church teach the world that God as a CONSUMING FIRE (Heb. 12:29) is visible and not invisible, literal and not spiritual, and bad rather than good?

    “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones [valuable traits of Godly spiritual character] wood, hay, stubble [carnal traits of no value]; Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because IT SHALL BE REVEALED BY FIRE; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is”

    Every thought, every word, and every deed that proceeds out of the heart and mind of man is his “WORKS.” And every thought, every word, and every deed of man will come into the judgment of Almighty God’s “CONSUMING FIRE.” Notice that it is both our things of great value: “gold, silver, precious stones,” and our things of no value: “wood, hay, stubble” that are tried in the fire, God’s Consuming Fire. Every person possesses knowledge, therefore, every person is a combination of both good and evil (for knowledge can only be a combination of both good and evil knowledge).


    God bless you, Patti, for having the courage and wisdom to bring this extremely important subject to the “light” of understanding. And I apologize if I have entered in where I don’t belong…

    As always, in God’s love,


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